Mahesh Bhatt says that one thing that is inevitable in a director's life is a flop! - Milan Luthria
By
Joginder
Tuteja,
Courtesy:
IndiaFM
Tuesday,
March
07,
2006
In 2006, if there has been any other movie apart from 'Rang De Basanti' that has found appreciation with both the mass and the class, it has been 'Taxi No. 9211'. We get into a conversation with the captain of the ship, or to put it better, the driver of this taxi - Milan Luthria - to know more about the film.
First
of
all
Congratulations.
'Taxi
no.
9211'
has
opened
to
unanimously
good
reviews.
The
movie
has
been
doing
well
everywhere.
Great
response,
great
feedback
from
the
audiences
and
also
from
the
critics.
In
fact
if
we
look
at
it,
after
'Rang
De
Basanti',
this
year
'Taxi
No.
9211'
seems
to
be
the
only
film
that
has
generated
so
much
of
positive
vibes
all
around.
True,
because
both
the
films
have
been
completely
different
from
any
other
film
because
of
the
kind
of
material
that
was
selected
to
make
the
film.
They
are
not
run-of-the-mill
and
subject
is
the
reason
they
stand
out
from
the
crowd.
So
did
you
get
a
chance
to
interact
with
the
audiences
who
went
to
the
theatres
to
watch
the
film?
The
other
day
I
went
to
Regal
in
Colaba.
[Says
in
a
lighter
vein]
I
met
a
black
marketer
there.
He
said
that
these
days
there
aren't
many
films
with
which
he
could
make
profits
and
he
said,
"Thank
you
very
much
for
making
a
film
that
is
so
popular".
I
also
got
a
call
from
a
heart
specialist
in
Hyderabad.
He
said
I
am
so
happy
to
see
such
a
film
being
made.
See,
the
feedback
has
been
so
emotional.
People
have
come
up
and
said
that
they
have
been
touched
so
much
by
the
last
15
minutes
of
the
movie.
That
was
the
whole
idea
you
know,
to
make
an
entertainer
that
reaches
to
your
heart
without
warning
you.
The
way
that
you
can
identify
with
it.
Has
it
been
a
unanimous
success
over
multiplexes
as
well
as
single
screen
theatres?
Yes.
In
fact
distributors
were
wary
as
they
thought
that
the
movie
was
only
for
the
multiplexes.
Some
from
the
trade
also
said
that
it
was
mainly
from
Bombay.
I
went
with
big
hesitation
to
big
single
screen
theatres
like
Regal,
Novelty
and
Gaiety.
I
didn't
want
to
be
disappointed
with
low
turnouts
but
you
know
it
was
shocking
that
all
theatres
were
FULL.
You
know
these
were
all
front
bencher
audiences
like
cabbies,
hawkers
and
vendors.
And
they
were
just
lapping
it
up.
I
don't
know
but
maybe
this
is
because
of
Nana.
For
the
masses,
the
basic
test
of
the
film
is
never
comedy
or
action
but
it's
always
the
last
30
minutes.
Audiences
get
restless
when
you
are
telling
a
story.
They
want
to
leave
as
they
need
to
go
back
and
stand
in
a
queue
to
catch
a
train.
They
don't
want
to
hear
a
'bhaashan'.
I
found
that
these
guys
were
very
thrilled
and
absorbed
in
narration.
When
I
look
at
in
hindsight,
it
seems
like
a
smart
move
to
have
people
like
Nana
and
John
as
they
appeal
to
both
segments
of
audience.
Yeah,
but
you
know
at
that
time
when
we
signed
them,
they
both
were
not
that
popular.
John
had
given
'Karam'
and
'Elaan'.
Nana
had
not
been
seen
for
so
long.
Films
like
'Kaal',
'Garam
Masala',
'Bluffmaster'
and
'Apaharan'
had
come
much
later.
But
that's
true
that
in
today's
scenario
the
box
office
has
worked
in
our
favor
as
they
became
much
popular
over
last
few
months.
What
could
have
been
an
ordinary
film
became
BIG
and
that
starcast
became
an
on-your-face
combination.
Was
Sonali
Kulkarni
comfortable
in
her
introduction
love
making
scene
or
did
it
require
some
convincing?
[Pauses]
She
was
off
course
hesitant
initially
as
any
woman
would
be.
I
was
very
clear
that
it
was
not
an
erotic
scene.
It
was
the
moment
from
a
night
of
the
couple
and
I
wanted
it
to
be
very
real
and
genuine.
She
wanted
some
clothes
and
we
gave
them.
Also
when
she
voiced
her
discomfort
I
told
her,
"See,
you
are
on
the
sets
of
a
producer
and
a
director
who
have
never
done
anything
hanky-panky
with
the
camera
work.
So
you
have
to
trust
us." From
hereon
she
was
absolutely
fine.
Also
I
would
like
to
give
credit
to
Nana.
He
is
an
absolutely
professional
actor.
You
know,
these
are
actors
who
have
done
so
much
theatre
and
have
interacted
so
much
with
their
co-stars
that
they
know
how
to
make
them
comfortable.
I
feel
this
scene
has
turned
up
very
well
and
is
one
of
the
best
scenes
I
have
ever
done.
As
per
you
which
was
the
most
crucial
scene
on
which
'Taxi
No.
9211'
balanced?
There
are
two
sequences
in
fact.
First
time,
when
John
gets
into
the
cab.
The
most
difficult
scenes
to
shoot
are
those
when
the
two
are
in
the
car.
The
director
cannot
really
get
into
the
car
and
you
have
to
just
leave
it
to
the
actors
to
be
on
their
own.
I
was
very
worried
about
the
scene
and
in
fact
I
kept
postponing
the
shoot
for
2
days
and
later
decided
that
let's
do
it.
The
chemistry
in
the
scene
is
very
important
as
the
audience
understand
a
lot
from
that
scene.
The
second
most
crucial
scene
is
the
end
where
Nana
tells
John
to
go
for
a
drink.
This
scene
was
important
because
if
it
would
have
gone
slightly
here
or
there,
it
would
have
looked
very
stupid.
It's
a
difficult
moment
to
pull
off
as
the
two
have
been
fighting
all
this
while.
Also,
one
is
a
cabbie
and
the
other
is
a
Mr.
Moneybags.
This
moment
had
to
be
convincing
and
here
again
I
was
quite
worried.
At
the
very
inception
or
while
the
movie
was
being
filmed,
did
you
ever
feel
that
you
are
making
a
'risky'
film?
[Says
firmly]
No.
In
fact
I
feel
that
the
risk
is
more
if
you
'follow'
something
which
is
popular.
If
you
try
to
imitate
a
working
formula
the
risk
increases.
On
the
other
hand
if
you
try
to
make
something
different,
the
risk
goes
down
like
what
you
saw
in
films
like
'Lagaan'
or
'Dil
Chahta
Hai'.
Now
look
at
'Iqbal'.
I
think
it
was
the
best
film
of
last
year.
Before
that
I
feel
'Maqbool'
was
the
best
film.
Especially
with
movies
like
'Chori
Chori'
and
'Deewaar'
that
were
not
really
commercially
successful,
it
would
have
been
difficult
to
gain
an
entry
into
a
production
house
like
that
of
Sippys.
No,
it
wasn't
like
that.
Ramesh
Sippy
had
seen
Deewaar.
There
are
some
producers
and
directors
who
don't
go
by
hit
and
flops
but
look
at
quality
of
work.
I
don't
regret
either
'Chori
Chori'
or
'Deewaar'.
I
am
not
ashamed
of
those
films.
I
am
first
to
admit
that
I
didn't
like
some
portions
of
these
films.
In
fact
I
didn't
like
the
climax
of
'Kachche
Dhaage'
at
all.
But
my
point
is
that
there
are
some
people
who
can
see
the
caliber
of
a
director.
'Lamhe'
was
a
flop
film
but
you
still
can't
down
a
director
like
Yash
Chopra.
Or
if
you
see
'Mera
Naam
Joker',
you
can't
say
that
Raj
Kapoor
doesn't
know
his
job.
Every
film
maker
has
flops
and
as
Mahesh
Bhatt
says
that
one
thing
that
is
inevitable
in
a
director's
life
is
a
flop!
In
fact
Amitabh
Bachchan
had
seen
'Chori
Chori'
when
we
started
'Deewar'
and
he
said
that
it
is
as
a
fine
film.
For
me
that's
the
biggest
achievement
that
I
have
been
given
such
a
recognition
for
my
quality
of
work
and
not
the
box
office
success
or
failure.
In
fact
I
got
more
offers
after
'Chori
Chori'
and
'Deewaar'
when
compared
to
'Kachhe
Dhaage'.
You
have
teamed
up
with
an
entirely
different
crew
ranging
from
cinematographer
to
writer
to
editor.
Ya,
I
have
changed
the
crew
completely.
I
just
thought
that
every
now
and
then
you
need
to
do
that.
New
people
bring
with
them
new
energy
and
new
approach.
They
update
your
own
vision.
Otherwise
what
happens
is
that
it
becomes
infectious.
You
end
up
repeating
yourselves
and
same
discussions.
New
crew
brings
certain
unpredictability
to
the
film-making
process,
as
each
of
them
brings
with
him
a
new
point
of
view.
Any
particular
films
in
the
pipeline
that
you
may
want
to
highlight?
[Pauses]
It's
a
little
too
early
at
this
stage.
The
one
film
that
I
am
committed
to
initially
is
with
Ramesh
Sippy.
There
is
definitely
a
film
with
Sanjay
Dutt,
though
we
haven't
decided
which
one
it
would
be.
Also
there
is
another
with
Ajay
Devgan
for
which
things
are
in
process
but
some
mix-n-match
is
required.
Which
are
the
genres
that
you
would
be
exploring
from
hereon?
Well,
one
is
a
love
story,
one
is
an
action-adventure,
one
is
situational
comedy
and
yes,
they
are
all
different.
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