Javed Akhtar speaks about his lyrics and scriptwriting
When he writes, India listens. When he pens words, they almost naturally transform into unadulterated poetry. When he blends Hindi with a hint of Urdu, he gives a fine lyricist to the Indian Film industry. In a freewheeling conversation with IndiaFM, Javed saab talks about his recent films as a lyricist Honeymoon Travels... and Namastey London and also tell us about a script he has recently finished but is clueless on what to do with it
How
easy
or
difficult
was
it
for
you
to
pen
the
lyrics
for
Honeymoon
Travels...
keeping
in
mind
this
film
is
a
comedy?
Well,
it
was
as
easy
or
as
difficult
to
write
lyrics
for
Honeymoon
Travels
Pvt.
Ltd.
as
any
other
film,
because
every
film
has
its
own
ethos,
its
own
atmosphere,
and
its
own
texture-
the
way
the
characters
feel
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
you
have
to
understand
the
level
and
the
wavelength
of
the
particular
film
and
write
the
songs
accordingly.
This
is
a
movie
that
has
a
definite
character
and
a
definite
wavelength.
So
I
tried
to
match
my
lyrics
to
that,
and
that
is
what
I
have
tried
to
do
every
time.
When
Reema
gave
you
the
narration
for
the
song
Sajanaji
Vaari
Vaari,
what
ideas
came
to
your
mind
for
the
song?
Honeymoon
Travels...
is
a
light
hearted,
youthful,
contemporary
film
where
the
characters
are
real.
There
is
something
very
unpretentious
about
it.
So
this
is
the
quality
one
had
to
capture
in
the
lyrics
and
also
in
the
music.
I
don't
know
to
what
extent
we
have
succeeded.
But
the
film
has
certain
honesty
about
it
and
there
is
a
ring
of
sincerity
and
this
is
what
we
wanted
to
capture
in
the
songs
also.
Now
there
is
one
completely
crazy
song
that
is
Sajanaji
Vaari
Vaari,
where
everybody
goes
pretty
haywire.
But
in
the
rest
of
the
songs
you
will
notice
that
the
language
is
simple
and
there
is
some
kind
of
an
unpretentious
approach.
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Vishal-Shekhar, the music directors of the film said that you wanted the songs to be very Indian folk, whereas they wanted it to be retro. Your idea finally worked, how did you work on it?
I think it was a good synthesis.
It
has
worked
very
well
on
the
screen.
How
did
this
idea
come
to
your
mind?
The
so
called
'disco
songs'
are
now
becoming
a
rage.
So
I
thought
that
if
we
take
a
pure
folk
tune
and
give
it
a
complete
retro
treatment,
it
can
bring
some
interesting
results.
I
think
Vishal-Shekhar
have
done
a
great
job.
And
I
must
say
that
Sunidhi
has
sung
the
song
very
well.
She
has
not
sung
it
totally
in
her
natural
voice
but
she
has
taken
a
style
and
attitude.
That
has
worked
in
a
big
way.
How
was
it
working
with
the
musical
duo
Vishal-Shekhar?
Well,
Vishal
and
Shekhar
are
exceptionally
talented;
there
is
no
doubt
about
it.
They
are
the
music
directors
of
the
future,
just
like
Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy.
These
are
the
people
who
have
a
very
good
repute
and
they
understand
Indian
music
on
one
hand,
and
on
the
other
hand
they
are
familiar
with
world
music
and
the
different
schools
of
music
-
Latin,
American
music
and
so
on.
So,
when
you
listen
to
their
music
carefully,
you
can
see
that
there
is
what
you
call
in
the
music
world
in
India,
a
great
"Tayari" in
them.
So
they
are
very
confident
people.
What
is
special
about
the
album
Namastey
London?
What
should
the
audience
look
forward
to?
You
know
when
Vipul
Shah
and
Himesh
Reshammiya
came
to
me
and
they
said
they
want
me
to
do
a
film
for
them,
for
a
moment
I
was
rather
apprehensive
because
Himesh
Reshammiya
is
doing
extremely
well
with
a
certain
brand
of
music
he
is
identified
with.
So
I
wondered
how
much
room
I'll
get
in
that
kind
of
music
to
participate
or
contribute.
But
to
my
relief
and
as
a
matter
of
fact
and
happiness,
Himesh
opened
with
a
remark
which
was
very
consoling.
He
said
that
I
have
come
here
not
because
I
want
just
another
film
song
but
because
I
want
the
kind
of
writing
you
do.
You
don't
have
to
bother
what
the
music
director
wants
or
the
Film
Company
expects
or
what
distributors
would
want
and
so
on.
You
just
forget
about
it,
and
write
songs
the
way
you
want
to
write.
That
was
very
comforting
and
it
was
really
a
pleasure
working
with
him.
He
is
a
person
who
is
tremendously
enthusiastic
about
his
work.
He
is
on
a
high
and
wants
to
experiment,
he
wants
to
do
new
things
and
I
think
his
music
is
doing
extremely
well.
It
is
a
good
combination
of
writing
and
hardcore
beat
at
the
same
time.
The
music
and
the
tunes
are
mostly
from
shastriya
sangeet
but
they
are
treated
in
such
a
way
that
you
won't
realize
it.
This
is
the
first
time
you
and
Himesh
have
been
paired
for
a
project.
How
did
this
happen?
Only
the
producers
can
tell
you
that,
but
because
we
have
come
together
I
think
it
has
brought
good
results.
I
was
very
comfortable
working
with
him.
Tell
us
something
about
the
mehfil
mix,
what
is
it?
Again
this
is
Himesh's
brainchild,
I'm
sure
it
is
his
brainchild.
He
has
made
three
versions
of
the
song.
One
for
the
film,
another
the
club
version,
what
you
call
jhankar
beat,
and
the
third
version
is
only
live
instruments...with
very
few
traditional
Indian
live
instruments
and
my
poetry
which
I
have
recited
during
the
interlopes
and
sometime
in
the
prelude.
I
think
we
have
done
five
songs
like
that.
The
song
Chakna
Chakna
is
already
doing
well
on
the
US
pop
charts...
Oh,
it
is?
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that...
So
you
have
recited
your
own
poetry
as
a
prelude
to
some
of
the
songs.
When
did
the
idea
of
getting
behind
the
mike
come
to
you?
Was
it
your
idea
or
the
musician
or
the
director
insisted
on
this
one?
It
was
Himesh's
idea.
As
a
matter
of
fact
again
I
was
slightly
skeptical
about
it
and
cynical
whether
it
would
work,
because
when
I
was
writing
the
song
I
had
not
thought
of
the
poetry.
But
he
insisted
and
persuaded
me
to
do
that.
So
ultimately
I
wrote
poetry
especially
for
the
film
songs.
And
this
is
for
the
first
time
they
have
used
your
voice
over...
That
is
right.
As
a
matter
of
fact
only
in
one
of
our
music
albums
Tum
Yaad
Aaye,
they
had
used
my
voice.
So
this
is
the
first
film
album
where
my
voice
is
used.
There
are
seven
original
tracks
and
eleven
remixes.
This
film
has
some
fast
beat
and
club
songs
by
every
temperament
-
club
song.
But
some
of
them
are
slower
songs
and
they
give
ample
room
for
writing
something
of
poetry,
giving
some
kind
of
poetic
expressions.
Zindagi,
and
Main
Kahin
Rahu,
are
very
good
songs.
Which
is
your
favorite
song?
All
of
them
are
good.
It's
a
good
album.
I'm
quite
convinced
that
it
should
do
extremely
well.
But
perhaps
if
you
force
me
to
choose
one
song
that
I
like
the
most
-
I
think
it's
a
tough
competition
between
Dil-e-bekaraar
and
Teri
Yaad
Saath
Hai.
Are
you
okay
with
the
remixes?
Actually
remixes
are
not
my
problem,
let
me
tell
you
honestly.
I
mean
personally
I
am
not
much
interested
in
remixes.
So
I
prefer
the
original
or
now
since
my
voice
is
there,
I
listen
to
my
poetry.
Perhaps
remixes
are
for
younger
people.
Was
Vipul
Shah
involved
in
the
making
of
the
music?
He
is
the
director.
He
is
the
one
who
has
explained
what
he
wants
in
one
particular
situation.
Vipul
Shah
is
one
of
those
directors
who
work
when
they
script
rather
seriously.
So
every
time
he
was
very
clear
about
his
situation
and
what
he
requires
in
the
song.
So
if
you
get
a
clear
brief
it
becomes
easier
to
write.
Tell
us
about
your
future
projects
as
a
lyricist.
After
Namstey
London
there's
Yashraj's
Tara
Rum
Pum.
Meanwhile
I
think
somewhere
by
July-August
we
can
expect
the
music
of
Jodha
Akbar.
So
these
are
the
immediate
films.
What
about
Chamki
Chameli?
Yes,
Shyam
Bengal's
film.
But
the
recording
is
yet
to
start.
Yeah,
we
have
done
couple
of
songs
and
now
we
have
to
do
some
more.
Are
you
writing
any
more
scripts
after
Don?
Yes.
Well
perhaps
it's
too
early
to
talk
about
it,
but
the
gap
after
Don
was
a
bit
too
long.
So
I've
decided
to
do
at
least
one
script
once
in
a
while.
I've
finished
one
script.
I
am
yet
to
decide
what
I'm
going
to
do
with
it.
Word
is
that
you
are
writing
the
dialogues
for
Apoorva
Lakhia's
Dus
Kahaniyaan.
Is
that
true?
No,
that
is
not
true.
Somebody
has
contacted
me
to
write
a
song
for
one
of
the
episodes
of
the
film,
but
I
don't
know
what
happened
about
it.
But
yes,
somebody
did
ask
me.
RGV
is
remaking
Sholay.
Any
idea
if
you
and
Salim
saab
will
be
credited
for
this
film
as
well,
considering
there
was
a
lot
of
controversy
over
this?
I've
no
idea.
Now
the
question
is
whether
Ramesh
Sippy's
Sholay
is
getting
credit
for
this,
because
I've
heard
that
ultimately
the
thing
is
in
the
court
-
and
I
don't
think
one
should
talk
about
it.
I
don't
know
what
they
are
doing,
I
have
no
idea.
Are
you
happy
with
Sholay
being
remade?
I'm
amused
and
surprised
that
some
people
had
the
audacity
to
do
that.
So
it
is
rather
amusing.
But
as
long
as
you
have
the
rights,
you
can
go
ahead
with
it.
I
hope
Ram
Gopal
Varma
has
the
legal
rights
to
remake
Sholay.
He
can
do
it,
but
if
he
doesn't
have
the
rights
like
the
producers
are
claiming,
then
that
is
not
right.
You
were
more
popular
as
a
scriptwriter
earlier
and
started
off
with
writing
lyrics
subsequently.
It's
the
other
way
round
now,
as
you
are
a
prominent
lyricist.
Why
have
you
slowed
down
on
writing
scripts?
That
is
right.
Maybe
there
is
more
gratification
here,
there
is
more
appreciation
and
it
is
a
more
comfortable
job
as
a
matter
of
fact
than
writing
scripts.
Scriptwriting
is
like
a
marathon
race
and
lyrics-writing
is
like
running
a
100
yards.
Both
are
difficult
but
this
takes
lesser
time.
So
somehow
I
moved
in
this
direction
but
now
I
have
decided
to
sail
in
two
boats.
What
do
you
think
about
the
scripts
coming
out
these
days?
I
think
some
interesting
films
are
being
made
and
the
kind
of
variety
we
see
today
is
totally
unprecedented.
People
are
going
into
different
directions,
they
are
probing
different
possibilities
and
interesting
films
are
being
made.
Sometime
back
there
was
a
Script
Writers
Conference
held
in
Pune
where
you
were
selected
as
the
head
of
an
11-member
committee.
Has
there
been
any
progress
on
the
committee
and
do
we
see
better
prospects
for
upcoming
writers?
Yes,
we
have
had
some
meetings
and
we
are
still
probing
different
possibilities
and
what
can
be
done
about
the
writers
and
about
the
status
and
the
current
situation.
We
are
trying
to
figure
if
they
are
paid
properly
or
not,
do
they
finally
get
a
chance
to
get
there.
These
are
some
of
the
issues
that
should
be
looked
into.