The
D
word
has
become
common
on
television
today.
No,
we"re
not
talking
about
Dons;
they
are
a
matter
of
the
past.
It"s
the
Dalit
(untouchable)
who
has
suddenly
become
dearer
to
television
producers.
Kashi,
Agle
Janam
Mohe
Bitiya
Hi
Kijo,
Bairi
Piya
and
Uttaran
–
all
of
these
shows
have
a
Dalit
protagonist.
Another
pillar
lending
support
to
Dalits
is
Contiloe
Films,
which
aims
to
highlight
the
ills
of
caste
discrimination
through
the
story
of
Bitto.
Pallavi
Gupta,
a
Brahmin
from
Delhi,
will
be
seen
playing
an
untouchable
in
the
show.
TellyCafe"s
Mayur
Lookhar
caught
up
with
the
young
actress
at
the
show"s
launch.
Excerpts
from
the
interview:
Pallavi
G-u-p-t-a!
You
probably
belong
to
an
upper
caste,
don"t
you?
Yes,
I"m
a
pure
Brahmin.
We
come
from
the
family
of
Parshuram.
Did
your
family
approve
of
your
decision
of
playing
a
Dalit,
seeing
as
you
are
Brahmin?
My
parents
were
absolutely
fine
with
it.
They
don"t
discriminate
against
lower
castes.
My
nani,
on
the
other
hand,
has
always
discriminated
between
humans.
She
would
be
livid
if
any
one
of
us
drank
in
the
same
glass
as
that
of
the
jamadarni
(sweeper).
Subsequently
she"d
opt
for
a
bath.
Her
way
of
looking
at
things
isn"t
good
which
is
why
I
want
her
to
watch
my
show.
Hopefully,
it
will
bring
some
change
in
her
attitude.
As
a
child,
how
did
you
react
to
seeing
elders
discriminate
against
the
Dalits?
Back
then,
I
didn"t
understand
untouchability
but
I
always
wondered
why
my
mother,
dadi
would
fret
that
much
at
the
sight
of
a
maid.
I
used
to
be
scolded
by
my
mother
if
I
drank
in
the
same
cup
as
the
jamadarni"s.
These
things
would
irritate
me
quite
a
lot.
Hopefully,
I"ll
be
able
to
change
people"s
attitude
towards
the
Dalits
through
my
show.
Urban
casteism
isn"t
too
severe
but
it"s
mainly
the
quota
system
for
Scheduled
Castes
and
Scheduled
Tribes
in
educational
institutions
that
upsets
those
from
open
category?
Yes,
that"s
true.
However,
the
quota
isn"t
limited
to
SC/STs
alone.
Private
colleges
have
their
own
reservation.
I
studied
in
National
College,
Mumbai.
When
I
was
filling
the
form,
I
was
asked
if
I
was
a
Sindhi.
Since
I"m
not,
I
was
told
to
fill
in
the
open
category
and
that
made
me
unlikely
to
get
an
admission
as
Sindhi
students
would
be
given
preferences.
This
left
a
bad
taste
in
my
mouth.
Similarly,
Mithibai
College
has
reservation
for
Gujaratis.
Other
colleges
have
reservations
for
Marathis,
Punjabis
and
so
on.
However,
don"t
you
think
reservations
are
necessary
for
the
upliftment
of
the
SC/STs?
As
a
human
being,
I"m
simply
against
any
kind
of
reservation.
Education
is
everyone"s
right
but
reservation
isn"t
the
solution.
It
widens
the
gap
between
the
people.
Do
you
seriously
think
that
a
TV
show
or
a
film
can
change
the
ground
realities?
Yes,
why
not?
After
playing
such
a
character,
I
can
relate
to
the
Dalits.
I
know
what
it
fees
like
to
go
to
bed
without
food
to
eat.
Through
Ramayan,
Arun
Govil
and
Deepika
Chikhalia
acquired
divine
status.
People
really
started
to
worship
them.
That"s
the
impact
of
television.
You
can
spread
your
message
to
the
masses.
How
can
you
bring
about
a
change
when
most
of
such
shows
return
to
the
comforts
of
Mumbai
after
shooting
in
the
small
town
for
just
a
month?
Ideally,
I
agree
with
you.
Shooting
in
Bihar
would
have
helped
us
in
giving
the
first
hand
account
of
the
situation.
However,
the
location
is
decided
by
the
channel
and
the
production.
We
actors
have
no
say
in
it.
While
we
may
not
be
shooting
right
on
the
scene
of
action,
what
we"re
showing
isn"t
plain
fiction
either.
Apparently,
on
one
side
you"re
showing
the
plight
of
the
Dalits.
On
the
other
hand,
you"re
patenting
the
Thakurs
as
evil
men.
Surely,
not
all
people
from
upper
caste
are
like
this?
That"s
true
but
there"s
no
denying
that
these
atrocities
do
happen.
In
fact,
they
just
aren"t
limited
to
the
Dalits.
The
Thakurs
also
dislike
the
girl
child.
I
can
testify
to
it.
I
come
from
a
family
where
the
matriarch
would
insist
on
putting
salt
into
the
mouth
of
the
girl,
so
that
she
dies.
My
nanny
loves
my
cousin
brothers
a
lot
more
than
me.
Till
date,
my
nanny
has
never
even
hugged
me.
A
Thakur
assaulting
a
Dalit.
While
some
may
sympathize
with
the
victim,
a
few
(presumably
urban
Thakurs)
might
find
sadistic
pleasure
in
watching
such
atrocities.
They
might
wish
they
also
had
such
a
privilege.
That"s
a
threat
too.
However,
they
should
think
twice
before
assaulting
any
woman.
Women
these
days
are
also
very
strong.
Have
you
ever
seen
a
Haryanvi,
Marathi
or
Punjabi
woman
fight?
These
women
can
put
the
men
to
shame.
Aurat
ko
ladna
aata
hai,
use
kamzor
mat
samjho
(A
woman
knows
how
to
fight,
don"t
consider
her
meek).
Suppose,
in
future,
you
fall
in
love
with
a
guy,
who
later
reveals
to
you
that
he"s
a
Dalit.
Would
you
still
marry
him?
The
caste
simply
doesn"t
matter
to
me.
However,
I
wouldn"t
appreciate
any
lies.
Caste
and
religion
bias
is
one
thing
that
I"ve
been
hearing
right
since
my
childhood.
Muslims
are
typecast
as
bad
human
beings
and
terrorists.
Come
on!
Hindus
can
be
terrorists
too.
I
believe
in
what
My
Name
is
Khan
showed.
There"s
no
such
thing
as
a
bad
Hindu
or
a
bad
Muslim,
but
it"s
the
human
being
who
is
bad.
Finally,
have
you
found
your
secular
guy?
(Laughs)
No,
I"m
still
single.
Let"s
see
who
God
has
in
store
for
me.